we're serious about our energy policy. even though congress doesn't act, the administration, the president could take those steps and it would send a clear signal, put a lot more people to work. >> so what should the policy look like? what, in your view, would be the most important, you know, event that the administration can do to help the country's energy situation? >> i think the first thing is it needs to be a policy driven by job creation. in the oil and the gas business, since this recession started in 2007, 2008, we've created close to 400,000 jobs when the economy has lost 6 million. so we need to focus on job creation potential. the second thing we shouldn't overlook is the amount of revenue that the industry generates as they create these jobs. we contribute over $86 million a day to the federal government. that's a lot of revenue that could help with deficit, deficit reduction and our debt structure. the third piece of that is we could become more energy secure as a nation. today we're less reliant on outside so